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An Interview with Ron Scolastico, Ph.D.

Dr. Scolastico is a distinguished Transpersonal Psychologist, author, artist, and Spiritual Counselor who has studied human consciousness for more than 30 years. He is a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, received MA and Ph.D. degrees from the University of Iowa, and studied at the University of Bordeaux, France. He has a unique ability to enter a deep state of consciousness and draw upon a vast source of wisdom that lies outside of ordinary awareness. Dr. Scolastico is the author of four books and hundreds of audio tapes that explore the relationship between human existence and spiritual realities. His book "Reflections" is now available as a free download on his web site www.ronscolastico.com

SG = Soul Graffiti
RS = Ron Scolastico


SG: YOU HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO AS A “SPIRITUAL PSYCHOLOGIST.” WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

RS: As a spiritual psychologist, I focus on helping my clients understand how their psychological patterns interact with their spiritual aspects. My work is directed toward helping them discover ways to work with their thoughts and feelings to bring their life experience into harmony with their soul, and with the non-physical, spiritual aspects of their existence. This includes understanding and healing various fears, as well as negative thought and emotional patterns.

My work grows out of the school of psychology called, Transpersonal Psychology, meaning that issues are addressed that include the person, as well as the transcendent, or spiritual aspects of the person. I take that further when I do my spiritual counseling work and I actually enter a “transcendent” state of consciousness from which I give my clients knowledge about themselves from a perspective that goes beyond my normal conscious state of awareness.

SG: AS AN EXPERT ON HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS, WHAT INSIGHT CAN YOU SHARE ABOUT RAISING OUR CONSCIOUSNESS TOWARDS KINDNESS?

RS: It is natural that, most of the time, we tend to be caught up in our own subjective experience of thinking, feeling, desiring, and acting in the world. We need to give a lot of attention to our own inner life in order to fulfill ourselves. So, our “normal” state of consciousness has a lot to do with self-involvement, and most of our attention is focused on the complexity of our own daily life in the physical world, which is a narrow perspective.

When we direct our attention outward toward other people, and we put aside our prejudices and criticisms of them, we can broaden our experience of our limited personal self into an experience of unity with other human beings. We can begin to feel that our personal self is part of the whole of life that includes all of humanity. This kind of expanded awareness of others can actually trigger a larger awareness of life itself. It takes us out of the more limited self-involved experience in which we can feel isolated from others, and in which our perceptions of life are filtered through our own self-involvement. We enter into a more universal state of awareness in which we can feel that we are, in some way, part of the life of the whole of humanity. If we then extend our thoughts and feelings to the spiritual realities that sustain the human world, we can even begin to sense the universal harmony of all of life, in the physical world, and in the spiritual realms. I have seen in my practice that all of this is possible when we are willing to consistently focus on kindness to others.

But, in the simplest and most important way of thinking about kindness, I would say that if we could treat each human with the same sweetness and tenderness with which we would treat a baby, a puppy, or a kitten, this world would be a much better place.

SG: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE KIND?

RS: It means that we create a feeling of caring enough about the welfare of another person that we naturally want to do something good for them. Then, we need to act on that impulse to actually do the thing that will serve the person in some way.

Kindness involves an ability to look beyond the outer appearances and behaviors of other persons and respond to the inner core of worthiness that lives within everyone. Kindness can often require sacrificing our own immediate needs to serve the needs of another. It is expressed in the words we speak and the deeds that we perform.

SG: WHEN WE PERFORM KIND ACTS, WHAT DOES THIS DO TO OUR LIVES?

RS: The act of kindness has many benefits. It softens us emotionally so we can feel more joy. It breaks a feeling of isolation from others and helps us feel that we belong with the people around us. It reduces any feelings of animosity or anger that we might have, which has many benefits psychologically, and also facilitates better physical health. It invites people to be more kind and generous to us in return so that we can feel we live in a friendly and safe world.

People who never express kindness to others can feel that they live in a cold, hostile world where there is no warm connection to other people. They can feel lonely and isolated. They can feel that they must always be on guard against negative experiences. They can lapse into selfishness, or even hostility. If their fears are exaggerated, they can even express in violent ways toward other people.

The greatest benefit of kindness is that it can open the way for us to experience more love in our lives. The more love we feel, the more fulfilling our lives become.

SG: WHAT LARGER ROLE DOES KINDNESS PLAY IN A GLOBAL SENSE?

RS: It is the key to everything. If you imagine that we could throw a magic switch right now, and instantly every human on the face of the earth suddenly released their fears and became kind and compassionate to everyone around them, then you would see everything change. Selfishness would vanish and we would all share the abundance of life. Prejudice toward other races and religions would vanish. Competition between groups and nations would vanish. War would vanish. Unfortunately, we do not have such a switch, so it is up to each individual to make a commitment to kindness if we are to have such wonderful changes in human life.

I believe that a great starting point would be to teach kindness in our schools, beginning with the youngest children. It would solve many of the world’s problems if our children were taught from the earliest age to be kind, compassionate, and loving toward others.

SG: IN ADDITION TO YOUR WORK IN PSYCHOLOGY, YOU ARE ALSO AN ACCOMPLISHED ARTIST. DOES ART AFFECT OUR CONSCIOUSNESS?

RS: I believe it has a very strong impact. Most of our daily experiences are overshadowed by our need to accomplish something tangible in the physical world. For most, it is going to a job every day to earn a living. Then, there are the endless details of maintaining our homes and possessions, traveling from one place to another, paying our bills, interacting with other people—on and on the tasks go that we need to pay attention to each day.

This kind of life roots us in the smaller world of practical physical reality. It often involves pressure, stress and strain, which “squeezes” us in our inner experience. You could say that our consciousness is very narrow when we only focus on practical affairs in the physical world.

Artistic expression can lift us out of the practical world. It can help us transcend the pressures of daily life so that we can elevate our experience into a realm that is not so limited by physical reality. When practiced in a calm way, it can even have the same beneficial effect as meditation or a spiritual practice. We can soar above the physical to experience inner creative realities that have no limits. For me, the experience that I have when I am transported by the act of painting is similar to a meditation experience. So, artistic expression can certainly expand our consciousness.

A visit to a museum can have a similar benefit as a walk in nature. Viewing the work of accomplished artists throughout the ages can trigger a feeling of the continuity of life, and of the magnificence of the soul. The beauty of art, as of nature, elevates our consciousness to the realms of the ultimate Creator of life, thus reminding us of our true eternal nature. That in itself can cause us to feel softer, kinder, and more compassionate.

SG: IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKET O SHARE WITH OUR SOUL GRAFFITI FAMILY?

RS: As a final thought, it is my opinion that having the “right” thoughts, the “right” feelings, holding the “right” vision is only a beginning toward creating a world of kindness, compassion, and love. It is the daily acts of kindness, large and small, toward another individual that will ultimately create the global changes that we all desire.

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